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Count me out! I will not be in church on July 5th.
“Master,” said John, “we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.” “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”
Whatever the motive, Jesus will receive the glory and honor and praise that is due Him. It can’t hurt to pray. Count me in.
Scripture reference for previous comment: Luke 9:49-50
Amen Katie Jesus will receive the glory and honor and praise that is due Him. It can’t hurt to pray. Count me in. I am in to prayer never hurts if the person who set this up has an ulterior motive then he will have to deal with God, I know Pastor Todd would not lead us into harm in any way. I’ll be there this sunday and every sunday. Love Mount Ararat
Count me in!! And if this Mr. Perkins doesn’t like abortion, atheists and homosexuals, then it sounds like he has a good idea about what God doesn’t like!!
Did you know?
* Of 32,000 verses in the Bible, only five directly mention homosexuality.
* The Qur’an only directly mentions homosexuality once.
* Leviticus, the book of the Bible which stipulates death for homosexuality,
requires the same punishment for adultery, pre-marital sex, disobedient children
and blasphemy. Pastor, do you preach the death penalty for adultery, pre-marital sex, and disobedient children? If not, why not?
* The Biblical Jesus does not condemn homosexuality.
* The destruction of the Biblical city of Sodom was due to their mistreatment of
strangers.
* The Bible never condemns same sex marriage.
* The Biblical David and Jonathan had a formal same-sex union.
* ‘Traditional marriage’ in the Bible includes polygamy.
* No known sacred text forbids same sex marriage.
* Very few sacred texts even mention homosexuality.
* Hindu and other far eastern sacred texts do not condemn homosexuality.
* Homosexuality is not unnatural, it is practised by hundreds of species of
animals.
When praying this Sunday at your Call2Fall event, perhaps we need to ask God’s forgiveness for elevating homosexual sin above adultery, divorce, pre-marital sex, and blasphemy, and hypocrisy.
In response to David S.
These things I know:
* Of 32,000 verses in the Bible, only five directly mention homosexuality.
- The Bible spends more time teaching about who God is, how He’s dealt with mankind through history, and how He wants us to live in a relationship with Him, than it spends making repeated references to practices He abhors. That does not mean He approves of those practices.
* Leviticus, the book of the Bible which stipulates death for homosexuality,
requires the same punishment for adultery, pre-marital sex, disobedient children
and blasphemy. Pastor, do you preach the death penalty for adultery, pre-marital sex, and disobedient children? If not, why not?
- It’s good you recognize that God clearly did prohibit his people from engaging in homosexuality and other perversions (Lev. 18:22-23), as well as forbidding other conduct. Jesus said that he did not come to destroy the law, but to complete it. (Matt 5:17) There is no New Testament passage that suggests that homosexuality was a cultural restriction simply enacted to demonstrate that God’s people were different; nothing to suggest that Jesus thought homosexual conduct was appropriate for a new age. The teaching at Mt Ararat has never been that those who commit homosexual acts should be put to death; rather, it has been that homosexual acts are (one of many) acts of sin. Nor has the teaching at Mt Ararat ever looked on adultery, pre-marital sex, disobedient children or blasphemy as anything other than sins. If you attend tomorrow, I think you will get to hear, first hand, what the Bible says about homosexuality. If you attended regularly, you’d have already heard about adultery, pre-marital sex, disobedient children and probably blasphemy too. More importantly, you’d have heard about how Jesus paid for all of them so we could have a clean relationship with God.
* The Biblical Jesus does not condemn homosexuality.
- I don’t know that the Gospel books contain an account of Jesus standing up publicly and condemning homosexuality, but I wouldn’t conclude because I couldn’t find that example that Jesus had somehow decided homosexuality was okay. When the woman caught in adultery was brought to Jesus he didn’t condemn her, but he did tell her to “Go now and leave your life of sin.” (John 8.1-11) Why would I think he’d have reacted differently to a homosexual caught in the act?
* The destruction of the Biblical city of Sodom was due to their mistreatment of
strangers.
- Ezekiel 16:48-50 does say that Sodom’s sin was that they were “arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.” It goes on to say that “They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.” Don’t you figure the “detestable things” could include their sexual practices? The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah follows the visit to Lot by strangers who happened to be angels sent from God. It does not appear in that story that the angels were left unfed and unsheltered. Their mistreatment was the attempt by the men of Sodom to have sex with them. Jude 7 makes it very clear that the sexual perversions of Sodom played a role in its destruction. (“as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”) This is just one indicator of how God views homosexuality.
* The Bible never condemns same sex marriage.
- I don’t recall ever reading a “thou shalt not marry someone of your own gender,” and yet the Bible is clear that a man leaves his parents to be joined to a woman, not a man. The Bible condemns lesbian and homosexual conduct (Rom. 1:26-27; 1 Cor. 6:9-11). Does it make sense that God would condemn homosexual conduct but approve of same sex marriage?
* The Biblical David and Jonathan had a formal same-sex union.
- Given that David and Jonathan lived under Levitical Law, they would have been stoned to death if they’d had a formal same-sex union or openly engaged in homosexuality. Those who claim David and Jonathan had a homosexual relationship generally point to 2 Sam. 1:26. What a great time to review Todd’s teaching on the word ahabah, since that’s the word used in that passage. It does indicate a very close relationship, one of personal commitment, but it most clearly is not the word dode, used to indicate a sexual relationship. Furthermore, there are any number of things that David did that displeased God, including adultery and murder (2 Sam. 11:1-16); if he were to have engaged in homosexuality, that would not somehow change how God viewed it.
* ‘Traditional marriage’ in the Bible includes polygamy.
- Acknowledging that there are multiple examples of polygamy in the Old Testament—even within Jesus lineage—does not mean polygamy fits God’s model for how people should live. It may have been someone’s “tradition,” but not God’s. God didn’t make two wives for Adam (He used Adam’s rib—there were plenty more) and he didn’t make a husband for him either. There is no example in the Bible of God placing his stamp of approval on polygamy or homosexuality. To the contrary, the passages already cited show God detests homosexuality and God established the one man, one woman model for couples.
* No known sacred text forbids same sex marriage.
- Unless you consider the Bible a sacred text, and God’s condemnation of homosexuality a bar to same sex marriage.
* Very few sacred texts even mention homosexuality.
- It isn’t so unusual that the Bible, or the books for other religions, would make little reference to homosexuality. It is a practice that has been uniformly deemed repugnant in practically all religions and among all cultures for thousands of years. That said, to God, all sin is sin. All sin separates us from God. Jesus died for all sin and created a way for us to be made right with God, through his own death. Recognizing that the death of the only perfect man—Jesus—really happened, and asking for his forgiveness will allow us to be made new and freed from the sin we now serve as though it is our master.
*When praying this Sunday at your Call2Fall event, perhaps we need to ask God’s forgiveness for elevating homosexual sin above adultery, divorce, pre-marital sex, and blasphemy, and hypocrisy.
- Homosexuality should not be elevated as “THE” sin, above any other sin. Nor should we fail to see homosexuality as sin simply because there are those who claim to be followers of God who embrace homosexuality. Romans 1:26-32 talks about homosexuality and what happens when people chose that over God—He gives them over to depravity. The story ends with a long list of sins that characterize the life of the depraved (some of which we should be ashamed to see in our own conduct), and then concludes with this: “Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.” We should be careful not to do those things that characterize depraved people; we should not fail to observe God’s righteous decrees; and we should never give approval for those who engage in that conduct.